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		<title>Comment on Right-turn lane as dual-destination lane? by DKB</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5173&#038;cpage=1#comment-7350</link>
		<dc:creator>DKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps this will prompt a blog entry. This last week there was a good deal of noise in the Boston press about the increased number of bike fatalities and plenty of uninformed opinion on how to make things safer.  On Thursday (the day before poor Ms Miura was killed) I rode downtown and checked out the bombing &quot;memorial&quot; in Copley Square and then proceeded to ride back toward Arlington via Comm Ave. I was astonished to find the bike lane on the LEFT side of the road. I thought I&#039;d give it a try regardless. The Mass Ave underpass was pretty exciting; I couldn&#039;t see the &quot;Masshole&quot; with my left-side mirror who screamed at me as he passed and then I had to cross two fast moving lanes to get off the damn street. I wondered if all the &quot;facilities&quot; that have been installed have contributed to the fatalities. The drivers are no worse than they&#039;ve been and there aren&#039;t that many more cyclists than there have been, so what&#039;s going on? Just a coincidence?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this will prompt a blog entry. This last week there was a good deal of noise in the Boston press about the increased number of bike fatalities and plenty of uninformed opinion on how to make things safer.  On Thursday (the day before poor Ms Miura was killed) I rode downtown and checked out the bombing &#8220;memorial&#8221; in Copley Square and then proceeded to ride back toward Arlington via Comm Ave. I was astonished to find the bike lane on the LEFT side of the road. I thought I&#8217;d give it a try regardless. The Mass Ave underpass was pretty exciting; I couldn&#8217;t see the &#8220;Masshole&#8221; with my left-side mirror who screamed at me as he passed and then I had to cross two fast moving lanes to get off the damn street. I wondered if all the &#8220;facilities&#8221; that have been installed have contributed to the fatalities. The drivers are no worse than they&#8217;ve been and there aren&#8217;t that many more cyclists than there have been, so what&#8217;s going on? Just a coincidence?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seeing green? by DKB</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5247&#038;cpage=1#comment-7349</link>
		<dc:creator>DKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m worried about their slipperiness, too.  I regularly skid (on foot!) on wet worn street markings when the glass beads wear off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m worried about their slipperiness, too.  I regularly skid (on foot!) on wet worn street markings when the glass beads wear off.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A vision for the future? by jsallen</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5123&#038;cpage=1#comment-7303</link>
		<dc:creator>jsallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, grandmothers can steer bicycles, but the person steering this one has a moustache. Probably not a grandmother. Now you are the one criticizing the artist :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, grandmothers can steer bicycles, but the person steering this one has a moustache. Probably not a grandmother. Now you are the one criticizing the artist <img src='http://john-s-allen.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Outbluffing robocars? by jsallen</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5294&#038;cpage=1#comment-7245</link>
		<dc:creator>jsallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 00:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thoughts, Ian.

There&#039;s another type of interaction I neglected to describe, one rooted in courtesy rather than bluff games. One person may make a &lt;em&gt;request&lt;/em&gt; of another, who courteously yields right of way even though this isn&#039;t required by law. This happens, for example, when a driver signals the desire to merge into line, and another driver makes room -- or when a driver is waiting to exit a driveway across a line of slow-moving vehicles, and a driver in that line stops to leave a gap -- only of importance if there wouldn&#039;t be a gap otherwise -- evaluating which is rather complicated compared with only evaluating one&#039;s own responsibilities under the traffic law. How will robocars know to judge when to be courteous? As this applies to bicyclists, will robocars know to interpret a bicycle&#039;s hand signal as a desire to merge into line, and grant the request? And to pedestrians: will robocars know to be extra-courteous to the mother pushing a baby in a stroller, or the elderly person who walks slowly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, Ian.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another type of interaction I neglected to describe, one rooted in courtesy rather than bluff games. One person may make a <em>request</em> of another, who courteously yields right of way even though this isn&#8217;t required by law. This happens, for example, when a driver signals the desire to merge into line, and another driver makes room &#8212; or when a driver is waiting to exit a driveway across a line of slow-moving vehicles, and a driver in that line stops to leave a gap &#8212; only of importance if there wouldn&#8217;t be a gap otherwise &#8212; evaluating which is rather complicated compared with only evaluating one&#8217;s own responsibilities under the traffic law. How will robocars know to judge when to be courteous? As this applies to bicyclists, will robocars know to interpret a bicycle&#8217;s hand signal as a desire to merge into line, and grant the request? And to pedestrians: will robocars know to be extra-courteous to the mother pushing a baby in a stroller, or the elderly person who walks slowly?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outbluffing robocars? by Ian Brett Cooper</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5294&#038;cpage=1#comment-7243</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Brett Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, I doubt robocars will even work on limited access highways. If a robocar leaves the requisite stopping distance between it and the car in front, there will be two human drivers more than willing to jump into that gap to gain an advantage. This will cause the robocar to brake and slow traffic behind the robocar to a crawl.

I think the robocar will only ever work when every car is a robocar. If humans are in the mix, the concept dies very quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I doubt robocars will even work on limited access highways. If a robocar leaves the requisite stopping distance between it and the car in front, there will be two human drivers more than willing to jump into that gap to gain an advantage. This will cause the robocar to brake and slow traffic behind the robocar to a crawl.</p>
<p>I think the robocar will only ever work when every car is a robocar. If humans are in the mix, the concept dies very quickly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outbluffing robocars? by Ian Brett Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Brett Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would be true if robocars were ubiquitous. However, I think the tech will probably be confined to a small niche in the luxury car market, and at current artificial intelligence levels, I think any rollout of a robocar concept will be a failure for some of the reasons you mention. Robocars will be virtually useless in city traffic and will be more of a frustration to the robocar&#039;s occupant (and every road user around him).

Eventually, robocars may be a force to be reckoned with on roads, but I think we&#039;re a long way - decades - from that. In the meantime, I think they&#039;ll roll out bits of the tech on a piecemeal basis, such as the self-parking car.

As for banning cyclists and pedestrians from roads where robocars can operate, I think we&#039;ll have reached an era where pedestrians and cyclists have more political clout before that happens. The age of cheap energy is all but over, and the automobile - a hugely inefficient people-mover - will be one of the first casualties of the long decline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be true if robocars were ubiquitous. However, I think the tech will probably be confined to a small niche in the luxury car market, and at current artificial intelligence levels, I think any rollout of a robocar concept will be a failure for some of the reasons you mention. Robocars will be virtually useless in city traffic and will be more of a frustration to the robocar&#8217;s occupant (and every road user around him).</p>
<p>Eventually, robocars may be a force to be reckoned with on roads, but I think we&#8217;re a long way &#8211; decades &#8211; from that. In the meantime, I think they&#8217;ll roll out bits of the tech on a piecemeal basis, such as the self-parking car.</p>
<p>As for banning cyclists and pedestrians from roads where robocars can operate, I think we&#8217;ll have reached an era where pedestrians and cyclists have more political clout before that happens. The age of cheap energy is all but over, and the automobile &#8211; a hugely inefficient people-mover &#8211; will be one of the first casualties of the long decline.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Six-Way, Washington, DC, a Second Look by The 6-Way, Washington, DC &#124; i am traffic</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=3121&#038;cpage=1#comment-7190</link>
		<dc:creator>The 6-Way, Washington, DC &#124; i am traffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 13:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The most recent post about this intersection on my own blog &#8212; includes links to earlier posts [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The most recent post about this intersection on my own blog &#8212; includes links to earlier posts [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I approve of this? by The 6-Way, Washington, DC &#124; i am traffic</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=1833&#038;cpage=1#comment-7189</link>
		<dc:creator>The 6-Way, Washington, DC &#124; i am traffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] first saw the plans for this intersection, I regarded them positively. I even wrote about this and published my comments. As I already said, a cross-street bike box violates none of the fundamental rules of traffic [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first saw the plans for this intersection, I regarded them positively. I even wrote about this and published my comments. As I already said, a cross-street bike box violates none of the fundamental rules of traffic [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seeing green? by Jon Niehof</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5247&#038;cpage=1#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Niehof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, now I find &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sanfranciscoize.com/2012/05/green-super-sharrows-meet-wiggle.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pictures&lt;/a&gt;.

(I&#039;m not sure about the proposal for cycle tracks on Fell and Oak. I found Fell perfectly fine westbound, but the official route eastbound is a bit indirect and less pleasant through that section. Just one out-of-towner.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, now I find <a href="http://www.sanfranciscoize.com/2012/05/green-super-sharrows-meet-wiggle.html" rel="nofollow">pictures</a>.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not sure about the proposal for cycle tracks on Fell and Oak. I found Fell perfectly fine westbound, but the official route eastbound is a bit indirect and less pleasant through that section. Just one out-of-towner.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seeing green? by Jon Niehof</title>
		<link>http://john-s-allen.com/blog/?p=5247&#038;cpage=1#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Niehof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those look very similar to the sharrows at intersections in The Wiggle of San Francisco, where they serve both positioning and routefinding functions. They&#039;re placed in the middle of the intersection, angled towards the continuing bike route. I&#039;m not sure I like the idea of sharrows as routefinding but they did make it easy to follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those look very similar to the sharrows at intersections in The Wiggle of San Francisco, where they serve both positioning and routefinding functions. They&#8217;re placed in the middle of the intersection, angled towards the continuing bike route. I&#8217;m not sure I like the idea of sharrows as routefinding but they did make it easy to follow.</p>
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